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This is not a comparison riding test of each bike – I didn’t ride the bikes listed here – my e- bike riding experience is limited to the Kuberg Free. Rider and a KHS 4 Season 5. BBSHD. It’s a comparison of features, specs, and pricing – the data culled from many public sources – for some groups of similar bikes. In a nutshell, this theory supposes that in an economic market for a particular asset or commodity, the price of that thing will be determined purely and correctly by supply and demand – if the market is “efficient” for this asset. An efficient market means one where all the buyers and all sellers have full information about each other and the asset. But mainly, what I think it means is that buyers of a particular item have full information about the pricing of that item in the market – they have looked at (and are aware of) all possible sources where they can obtain this thing, and knowing all possible information, they make an informed decision – and presumably purchase the thing from the seller who offers this particular item for the lowest price. In a free market economy, this rewards sellers who offer a lower price (and lower profit margin) because more people buy from the lower- priced seller. Sellers who charge a high price for the same item, in theory, should go out of business because buyers who have all information would not buy from them, they’d buy the same item from the lower priced seller. Markets aren’t all efficient, of course, and the same item can sell at different places or times, for a different price. Back before the Internet, there were lots of inefficient markets, because it was a lot harder to learn about all possible prices for a certain thing. Some people even make a living off these price differences, using their time, or noggin, or possibly privileged or secret information, to find things selling at a lower price in one place, buy those things, then sell them at a higher price somewhere else. That’s called arbitrage. Because when I started shopping for my first e- fat bike – and was deciding whether to do a DIY build, buy a “hot- rod” shop bike (like Luna Cycles or HPC), or a factory built e- bike, this term kept coming into my head. I was seeing wildly varying prices for what essentially appeared to be the same bike. Some companies were selling this bike for much more that what I knew the components to cost, some were selling for prices so low I wondered how they could do it and stay in business, and in- between these extremes, I saw a mishmash of price variation that simply boggled my mind. That means, I thought, the e- bike market must be incredibly inefficient, if sellers could stay in business charging (in some cases) nearly double what other shops offer the same bike for. Or charging $1. 00. It must mean, I thought, that buyers of these higher- priced bikes must not have full information about the e- bike market. After all, if they did, why would they spend so much more on an equal (or in some cases, inferior – at least performance- wise) bike? I decided that I needed to make some comparison charts to really see what’s what. I get most excited not when I see the latest- greatest megabuck item in a particular category that I am interested in. What really gets me excited is the subsequent product that comes out and provides 8. I wrote for two magazines about home entertainment and technology back in the early 2. The articles I wrote for the magazines focused on products that provided the best bang for the buck. I always got excited when I found something that provided way more performance than its price tag would suggest. So, with this predisposition for maximizing bang for the buck, several months ago I started searching for an e- fat bike (or e- mountain bike, I wasn’t sure which I wanted to get). I just knew I wanted something motorized that could go off- road on the trails near me, that was fun to ride, and had a decent amount of power. OK, a LOT of power. I knew from my experience with e- scooters that the amount of fun you have riding them is directly related to how powerful they are – slow scooters, not so fun. Mid- powered scooters (for me, 1. I always wished for more. Crazy fast scooters (1. I had purchased the Kuberg Free. Rider, fell in love with it, and wanted to have an off- road motorized bike that offered good performance – but didn’t look like a motorcycle. I wanted to maintain good relations with my fellow trail- users, and while I’ve never had any negative confrontations with others there while riding the Kuberg, I just wanted to get something more stealthy, something that looks like a regular bike, that me or my girl could ride on the local trials without offending anyone (hopefully). It would become waaaaay longer by analyzing all the dozens, maybe even hundreds, of e- mountain and e- fat bikes on the market now. Add to that the seemingly endless supply of new startup e- bike companies on crowd funding sites like Indiegogo, and this comparison could become unwieldy. So, I decided to limit my comparison to bikes that are currently on the market and for sale right now (no crowd- funding pipe dreams), motorized fat bikes and mountain bikes, because that’s what I am interested in. I chose the bikes that I felt are most relevant to me, ones that in most cases I’d actually consider buying. In some cases, I’ll compare prices and features where basically the same bike is available for sale from more than one retailer. I’ll also compare by price level, looking at what kind of bike is available if you’re shopping at a certain price point. There are three kinds of e- bikes: 1. Factory- built bikes: These are e- bikes that come designed and pre- built by already established bicycle manufacturers, such as Specialized or Haibike for example. These often use mid- drive motors, many supplied by Bosch. Many of them that I’ve seen are very sleek and polished- looking, some with the battery compartment integrated into the frame downtube. Most factory bikes I’ve seen are very expensive compared to shop bikes or DIY. Shop bikes: These are e- bikes sold by “hot- rod” shops which take existing bikes and retrofit them for electric use, installing all components for the end user. In some cases, these shops specialize in high- performance or high- power options, offering bikes that provide significantly more power than most factory bikes have. Shops in this category would include Luna Cycle, HPC (Hi- Performance Cycles), and Lectric Cycles. DIY bikes: In this case, the end user buys the bike, and all the components (motor, battery, display, etc.) separately and assembles the bike himself. This is usually done for one or all of 3 reasons: a). Here’s what this means: for the DIY (Luna) calculation, I take prices of all components used for the bike from the Luna Cycle site. For DIY (China), I try to locate, as best as possible, the same components to buy directly from China, usually by Aliexpress. The main difference here is that Luna recommends and sells 5. Bafang BBSHD mid- drive, while almost all Chinese sellers offer only 4. Chinese sellers – so in the pricing calculations, I am comparing a 4. Aliexpress vs. All prices include shipping (shipping price is listed separately, where applicable) for a USA buyer, but don’t include sales tax. Tax will usually apply if you are purchasing from a shop in your home state. Outside US buyers – you’ll have to add applicable shipping costs, and import duties, to come to the total pricing for you. I’ll also compare by price levels, looking what kind of bike is available from different sellers, for a given budget. Let’s get started at a price level I learned is considered “budget” in the e- bike world – $1. So, say you’re looking for your first e- mountain or fat bike, you want to dip your toes into the e- bike pond, and not spend more than $1. What are your options? Well, my research found there’s a surprisingly large number of choices at the . Much has been written about this bike already, especially two great reviews by Eric right here on Electricbike. Karl at Electricbike- blog. I won’t repeat what they have already said, but try to add my perspective to the Sondors, looking at it from someone new to the e- fat bike world. The main selling point, of course, is its incredibly low price – but to the advertised prices you must add $1. Also, if you order from the Sondors site, there is a 9. If you want a Sondors now, I located several sellers on e. Bay offering them for higher than the MSRP – in most cases, $1. Hey – there’s a really good example of arbitrage: you can buy a bunch of Sondors bikes for $8. Then, sell them on e. Bay for $1. 00. 0 each. After shipping cost, e. Bay fees, and Pay. Pal fees, you might even make 2. From all my reading about the Sondors, here are the main points that stood out about this bike for me. First, Karl said the power is simply too weak on this bike, and it can’t handle much more than a 5% grade in stock form. And it’s almost impossible to pedal yourself once the battery runs out. Contrasting that, though, in Eric’s article on this site, he gave a quite glowing review of the Sondors, noting its equipment was amazingly well- spec’d for the price – and the design showed the bike was thoughtfully planned out. Motorized Bicycle Canada. Home of the Grubee Skyhawk Engine kit. I am very impressed with how well these engines are built. Saves me hundreds of dollars in gas.
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